I'm a newbie and I noticed on your posts that some of you use a dry-dropper rig. Can anyone explain that to me with the lengths of all intervals and where to put the splitshots?
Ive never used that set up before. It looks neat on the diagram, but i think for all the time you would spend tying it the standard dropper technique would work best. It has proven effective for me. I use a 7.5 - 9 foot leader and then a 18"-24" tippet. that works well for me. Ive only been there twice and everybody tells me to get the nymphs to the bottom (moss on them every couple casts) and that has been really effective. Most of the nymphs i use are dark colors because the water is green so i use anything green and or black/brown most of the time. I also stay small sizes 16-20. Prince, pheasent, hares ears wd40's (which havent worked for me), etc... Good luck and im also fairly new to fly fishing a little over a year and i still learn simple things everytime that end up making a huge difference.
I agree with MotoGP. It looks like a cool idea, I am just not sure it is worth all the effort to tie. I use a shorter leader than usual....usually around 7-7.5 feet. I also use 1-2 split shot about a foot above the first fly in your dropper set up. Good luck!
After looking at the cool diagram on the web link with the two nymph rig. I wonder how it stays together with a decent sized trout attached. I generally use a 9 foot leader and tie on something with a little color like an egg pattern or a trigger nymph. I tie on something tiny and dark on a tippet only about 10-14" below. I use a #4 splitshot about six to eight inches above the upper fly. The greedy little buggers are checking out the sparkley bug coming at them, but grab the thing moving by before it gets away. Badda-bing! Well, sometimes anyway. Good luck.
Looks like an interesting approach, I might actually muster up the guts to try it one of these days. I've definitely spent a lot of time dealing with a knotted mess caused by the flies tangling with the split shot and the approach seems to address that and I've lost lots of flies to the bottom. I was also reluctant to use split shot at first but am now quite comfortable crimping on a cannon ball if that's what it takes to punch underneath the current into the depths below, it's certainly paid off.
I use a similar setup, with just a few differences...
1. Personally I use a drift-right indicator and run straight 4x-5x (straight, no taper)all the way down from the indicator to avoid drag (the thinner the leader, the less drag). I dont like to run this setup to long, usually about 1.25 times my depth.
2. I tie two surgeons knots into the leader about a foot apart, with my first knot being my point flie. Each knot is left witha long tag end. The tag-ends are long enough to tie a perfections loop to secure the nymphs with about 4"-5" of seperation between the surgeons knot and the base of the loop.
Overall I love this setup. The main reason being the lack of having to use beadheads. Also I think this setup gives a more "natural" look to my presentation.
Here is a link to show how it should look. I like this diagram, becuase it shows how to tie the loop without having to hold the knot and "pass" the flie through to first loop. IMO this can be the most frustrating part, especially when trying to make smaller loops, for smaller flies. You can see with this technique, tying this know can be really easy...