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Always-on


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so im about to ruffle some feathers and stir up ideas so dont get mad cause in my opinion its just a well thought question and i would like to just see what people have to say so here it goes. and this is actually to bono cause he is the one who pointed out a family friend of mine fishing for browns below the diversion dam. my question is how can you call some one an idiot for catching and taking fish that were planted there for people to catch and take home that were put there with our tax money especially fish that are not native. browns were only below the diversion because they were planted in lake solano their not even a native species of the U.S let alone putah. now the the thing is the way the views are is that browns shouldnt be there in the first place like it was wrong to plant them to start with. due to the law/act what ever its title is that stopped the planting was pushed through by activists that believe steelhead once spawned in putah before the dam correct me if im wrong. the status of a wild native fish area pretty much shuts down the idea of having browns in the creek at all. other places ask people to take browns home to eradicate them from the waters because their problem fish that devour the young bows. so why is he an idiot because he a good fisherman that caught all the browns you act as if he never released any of the ones he caught. Of course its disappointing that the level of browns in the creek is low but that is simply the reality of the creek itself now its no longer a home for brown trout so regardless of one many catching many browns they would have all died out in the future any ways and sadly one day none will remain but thats who ever got the planting to stops fault. not the fault of fisherman who catch and keep. besides the creek will hold many more strong fighting huge native bows now. However, i feel that the planting should have continued to let the people who want to catch and keep take those while the other fisher men who target wild trout can catch and release or have regs that require the release of wild trout and keeping hatchery like steelhead fishing but perhaps thats just not a reality.  

                                                       sorry for the horrible run on sentences and bad grammar after all it is just a rant.

                                                                -Chris



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Hey guys...I think that the debate about the browns in Putah can go on forever...we just need to keep working to have this fishery and those that seem to be hating on Alwayson should remember that most of us did not grow up on fly rods...for me, it was a bamboo rod (yes, another OLD GUY!) and bluegill fishing that got it going...since then I have become addicted to trout of all species....I lived in Winters for many years and taught more kids to fish than I can remember...most on the creek, when it was well stocked and they could get the "feeling" we all crave...FISH ON!!! my daughter caught many browns ( as I fished feverishly for naught!) and we usually ate them as they often die in the battle or soon after...she is now 30 YO and remembers well the days when the creek was both a source of pleasure AND food!!! that's right, we ate them just like Alwayson...it was legal and we never wasted them...BTW, I also began C&R at an early age with these kids, so they could teach their children the joys of fishing! Still remebver the first gravid femakle my little girl let go to "have her babies"....We still fish the creek, me with my fly rod and others with lures...C&R is the order of the day and we still LOVE Putah!!!! sooooooo.....keep on working to preserve OUR creek people!

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I caught some really nice Browns in Putah back around 2001 or 2002.  In the Fall it seemed the big guys would migrate up from Lake Solano to spawn and then drop back down.  I haven't seen them since to my memory.  I'll see in the morning though as I am taking my son to start him in the Putah tradition.  ;  )



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I went throughy log book from this past year and totaled the number of fish we caught while I was guiding. From the end of February until the end of Novemeber we tallied 354 fish, and not one of them was a brown.

I spent two days last summer in a full body wet suit snorkeling the creek. I searched from the dam to Solano. What I saw was amazing but zero brown trout were observed. 



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i seen a brown about to months ago while i was up in a tree looking into the water he was chillin until about a 8-10 bow pushed him out of his dark hole he was chillin in it was then i tried for him and he just was gone spooked off =(

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I doubt that was a brown. The rainbows ate really dark in putah. A brown would look chocolate or a really like tan. Our would be hard to distinguish unless you actually caught the fish. Is like to think there are still browns there but they most likely were caught and kept. They are a fun meat eating fish to hook into.

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i never said the fish was dark the fish was really light brown the rainbow was dark as hell its not hard to distinguish a fish when ur in a tree looking down into clear water bows and browns differ in a couple ways color is obvious but even their tails are different.iv seen the fish in putah i watch them all the time i seen a school of 80 carp with 30 bows scattered in between them very easily distinguished due to the carp being a lighter almost greyish green and the trout being nearly black ive only seen 2 browns in the years iv fished putah and both were this year. i was amazed if you dont believe me thats fine lol im still trying to catch one to prove there still there if i do i do if i dont i dont. there still here just few and very far between.



-- Edited by Always-on on Wednesday 1st of January 2014 07:15:36 PM

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but those browns like dark holes they dont like sunlight so after that big bow swept in he was gone

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Always-on wrote:

i seen a brown about to months ago while i was up in a tree looking into the water he was chillin until about a 8-10 bow pushed him out of his dark hole he was chillin in it was then i tried for him and he just was gone spooked off =(

 What type of tree were you up in?



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About 2006/7 I was fishing near the 128 HWY bridge during the summer and caught a 10"-12" brown. I was fishing with my good buddy and we both identified the fish as a brown trout before releasing it...it had the red spots and everything...i swear on my dog's life...

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What a lively discussion, nice to see all the passion. The first trout I ever caught on Putah creek was a small brown, that was in the mid 90s. Since it was a juvenile you would think that browns were able to reproduce at one point. Since then I have not seen or caught any browns.  To be honest I do not understand why anyone would want browns in the system, as they are not native and are just absolute carnivores.

I do not fish Putah creek as much as I used to, but spent quiet a lot of time on it last spring and must say that the fishery has greatly improved, hope it stays that way. I actually did some underwater filming and the amount of juvenile and adult fish I encountered was staggering, but again no browns.



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an oak tree... there was about 26-28 inch bow and about a 24 inch brown the only thing is its a rough spot to fish. normally rainbows might chase eachother a little but they tend to be tolerable of each other iv seen them schooled up massive together but these two fish were total opposites in color the bow big dark but the brown was nice light golden brown and the bow was just not havin the brown be in his area n chased him off then just chilled near some submerged debris 



-- Edited by Always-on on Thursday 9th of January 2014 07:16:10 PM

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The key to fishing is patience....and not set the hook to quickly!

 



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