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I just got back from a pretty weird few days fishing around Markleeville on the East Carson.  I drove up late Thursday and set up the backpacking tent in the dark which was an adventure in itself, built a fire and cracked a cold beer.  I was sawing logs by 10pm and up again at 5:00 to hit the wild trout section below Hangmans.  I was on the wate4r a little before 6am and started nymphing some likely looking spots.  After a few selections I finally hooked up on a pheasant tai (small 10 inch fish)l but that was the sum total of my success until about 9am when the sun got on the water and the dry fly action began.

There were a few rises here and there but nothing hatching that I could see so I tried a big size 12 Royal Wulff and got another couple of small fish.  Changed over to a size 12 October Caddis and fish started hitting it, but they were so small most of them couldn'ty get their mouths open wide enough to bite on it!  By about 1:30pm I had about 8 small fish and had to work hard for each of them.  I tied on a big parachute adams for the last hour ahnd had a great time tempting one small fish that seemd hell bent on killing my fly by wrestling it to death.  It jumped over the fly, body slammed it, hammered it half a dozen times before I finall hooked him.  Fought like a little demon too.

Great fun, beautiful scenery and even caught sight of a bald eagle.

Saturday morning I headed to the popular stocked section of the river above the Carson River resort to see if there were any bigger fish around.  Again I was on the water before 6am and found a nice hole that looked fishy and tied on a tungsten cone head bugger.  As I was flipping out the fly to get the leader clear of the guides a 20 inch fish hit the fly and I was on.  5 minutes later it was in the net. A big fat hatchery fish. Within the first hour I had a dozen fish in the net the biggest 24 inches and they were absolute hogs, but had zero fight in them.  Dead weight on the end of my line for the most part.  At one point as the sun was beginning to hit the water and i stripped the fly out of the shadows into the sunlight, I counted 6 fish chasing it, 2 of them over 20 inches.

I got bored after a while stripping and tried a big hopper but they weren't interested so I tied on a muddler and again hooked up first cast.  I had to put on some split shot to get this fly down to the bottom of the hole but the fish didn't care they hit it every cast almost and sometimes before I even began stripping.

By 9:30 I had 29 fish in less than 3 hours, 4 of them over 22 inches, and I was done.  Of the total catch I think 2 were wild fish judging by the fight they put up, the rest had been put in the river probably the day before.  There were 3-4 large dead fish at the bottom of the hole that probably didn't survive the plant.

I caught the four biggest fish I've hever had on a fly and more fish than my last 10 trips combined, but it wasn't all that enjoyable to be honest.  There's no sport in hauling big dumb fish out of a river when they'd probably rather be in your net than that weird place with moving water and no 3 squares a day.

I know someone else posted a similar story about the same river and my reaction was "what? you're complaining about catching fish????" but now that I've had the same experience I understand where he was coming from.  It was catching not fishing.  I felt a little guilty and happily ceeded the hole to the bait dunkers who descended on me and started casting almost over my head....seriously some people have no manners whatsoever.

I took one hog back to camp that had to weigh nearly 7lbs.  Little tiny head with a scuffed up snout, and a huge bloated body.  Tasted good cooked on a campfire and fed 4 adults and 4 kids and maybe even a bear judging by the noise that came from the camp dumpster at 3am.

When I go back next year I'll be sticking to the wild trout section.  I had more fun stalking those little 10 inch fish than I had hooking the 24 inch planters, hands down.

We drove past that hole yesterday on our way to Ebbets Pass and there were literally 20 people fishing a 30 yard run.  I'd bet its empty of fish today.



-- Edited by Bob Loblaw on Monday 30th of July 2012 12:11:45 PM



-- Edited by Bob Loblaw on Monday 30th of July 2012 12:14:09 PM

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At least the fins look in good shape.biggrin Those little rainbows almost have a cutthroat coloration to the body-probably just the lighting



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The first one definitely had some bronze coloration, not a typical rainbow.  The big fish I caught were all beat up with shredded tails and fins and pink noses that had been rubbed raw on the tank walls.  I wish I could figure out how to post video.  The contrast between the fight in the big planters and the small wild fish is funny to watch.



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Great story! The first two photos look like lahontans. Apparently either the DFG or the county is planting lahontans this year. I think the best way to post a video is to set up an account on youtube and download it there. Then just post a link to the Youtube video.

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Like you I don't get my fix from catching planters. My observation is that planters go flop flop flop flop flop flop flop flop as you reel them in, it's kind of a confused fit they are having. Wild fish know what cover is and run for it so they can hide or wrap you around submerged sticks or logs.

In my view fishing for planters is pretend fishing. The "fishing" part SHOULD be the challenge of knowing what fish might be eating, where they are holding, and how to present a lure to them in a way they find convincing enough to strike, becoming totally dialed into the conditions and events taking place on the water as they unfold from hour to hour, constantly changing strategies in effort to keep up with the rich diversity of the stream life. With planters none of that really matters because most of them are hauled out within 2 weeks of being planted.

Planters? Meh. It's like fishing for somebody's pet. There's a place for it, like fishing derbies for kids in ponds, or in select bodies of water to relieve pressure on other more consciensciouly managed waters. Want to catch trophy trout? Then let's manage more fisheries so they are capable of producing trophy fish on their own. In the decades ahead I hope the greater population of recreational fishermen recognize the folly of the put & take "entitlement fishing" where fish are planted because so many people feel they are entitled to catch and keep a stringer full of fish from pretty waters that are in no way capable of supporting that kind of "opening day" or "campground" harvesting.

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Video links

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6NikQB6OY0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRlIp2Ysm8Y

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttgIpLuntDU

 

Apologies for the lousy quality, its not easy playing a fish in one hand and shooting video with an I-Phone in the other.



 



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