Redds

LilWhippersnapper · Senior Member

RE: Redds

LilWhippersnapper · Senior Member

hobbs wrote:

Listen, this is getting ridiculous. Its simple logic that you arent grasping Lil. If Putah improves then let people fish. If it gets worse for some reason then close it. Its that simple. It will improve and people will have an enjoyable, positive experience if we keep working and educating in a thoughtful manner.

I would have loved to see Putah when it was in its "prime" because in my eyes its pretty damn amazing right now. I have never seen fish like Im seeing in a small stream like Putah. And by the way its favorable this time of year because its not screwed up by ag releases and flowing at 600csf, not just becasue its the spawn.

Also if everyone had your attitude, people would hate flyfishermen and not care about what you have to say. Thankfully you seem to be in the minority. Words (whether written or spoken) should be used to educate and inform not control, regulate, insult and brow beat.

Its not yours or anyone else's right to "ask" others to not do something. This statement would have been a much better way to express the opinion, "I choose not to fish the creek this time of year because I dont want to interfere with the spawning process in any way. This is my personal choice but if others fish the creek all I ask is you be careful. Try not to wade through redds, try to avoid mature spawning fish, practice sound C&R and simply follow the regs..." If you and others would have said something like this then we wouldnt be having this ongoing discussion and I wouldnt have to keep repeating myself....but you DIDNT!

Oh, and thanks for brining up the Bono thing again. Yes in some ways it was out of line but it was also a true statement. When I first started posting, yes I'll admit I was a little fired up, but now Im simply trying to gain perspective and educate and turn this thread into what it should have been about in the first place. Its great you care about the creek so much, now take a step back and care a little more about your sport and your fellow fisherman.

-- Edited by hobbs on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 10:32:16 AM

Ok whenver I want to say something I'll just ask you what I should say. You seem to have it all planned out. Your right nothing you do is wrong and no one, even us fisherman who make the fishery should ask anybody to leave the spawners alone. So when you see someone fishing on a redd what do you do? Do you ask them not to fish the redds or do you join them? I hope you don't ask them, cuz then you would be a hypocrite.

Have you been to the fishsniffer board. Spin fishermen aren't to fond of fly fishermen.

I'm grasping what your saying, but there's not too much logic in it. My point is, why wait to see if it improves. Why can't people let them spawn in piece at least for a couple years and see if it helps the improvement. You know, give it a little jump start. What's worse? Not being able to fish the creek during winter for a couple of years and seeing an improvement, or being able to fish it in the winter and hope that the fishery improves but it's not a guarantee?

BENICE · Member

Hiding behind another username, seriously, what are you smoking. You really pull some stuff out of your butt. I really hoped there was a glimmer of hope for you to stop being so rude, but i guess not. Being respectful in life will take you much farther that being rude, abrasive and disrespectful. Some day you will say the wrong thing to the wrong guy and get beat like a red headed stepchild. You really need to watch your words. And no that isnt a threat, thats a word of wisdom. So you PM edog7 but you wont pm hobbs, jvento or bc. Thats shows what type of person you really are. A big hypocrite. Hope you go far in life, but by the looks of it you wont. GROW UP. You are no better than the gear guys that bash fly fisherman. People like you is was causes the hate hate relationship between the gear and fly guys. You are 24 yrs old. ACT LIKE IT.

What part of "I have been reading this thread since it started" didnt you get. Are you that stubborn or just dumb.

You stated "If you are going to threaten a veteran there will be some hostility." how is that not a threat.

Here is an English lesson for ya
Hostility means: giving attitude, being antagonistic, being unfriendly, possibly a hostle act, opposition or resistance to an idea, plan, project, act, etc, also could mean act of war. how could that not be taken as a threat.

ONEWEIGHT · Senior Member

I think this has reached a point where we can only resort to one final act. I propose we erect an Octogan at Access 2 on New year's Day and have a mixed martial arts submission match for all who want to enter. We could line up paramutual betting and everything. It would give us a chance to participate in a more enriching fashion here.

If we could get this thing going around 11:00 AM, I know my hangover will be about gone. If someone could bring a tarp, we could cover the ring in the event of rain.

I propose Brian Clemens as referee, being that he has weathered these battles in the past and has undoubtedly learned from prior experience to referee is better than participate. We could do a creek cleanup afterwards?

Bob

hobbs · Senior Member

Im done trying to make my point over and over and Im certainly done with this thread. If you want to comment on a new productive thread, I started one called "Education." Please leave the hostility and "harshness" out of that thread and dont comment unless you have something positive and useful to add. Lets all try to be good representatives of our sport and also be responsible when we are out on any water during any time of the year. Thanks.

Haha...thanks Bob. Your comment would be a perfect way to end this thread. Im a lover not a fighter though. I have no beef with anyone here, I only take issue with a few things that were said. Goodbye to this thread....

Happy Holidays everyone!

-- Edited by hobbs on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 03:45:01 PM

brian clemens · Senior Member

Can I be a tag-in Referee just incase. LOL

LilWhippersnapper · Senior Member

BENICE wrote:

Hiding behind another username, seriously, what are you smoking. You really pull some stuff out of your butt. I really hoped there was a glimmer of hope for you to stop being so rude, but i guess not. Being respectful in life will take you much farther that being rude, abrasive and disrespectful. Some day you will say the wrong thing to the wrong guy and get beat like a red headed stepchild. You really need to watch your words. And no that isnt a threat, thats a word of wisdom. So you PM edog7 but you wont pm hobbs, jvento or bc. Thats shows what type of person you really are. A big hypocrite. Hope you go far in life, but by the looks of it you wont. GROW UP. You are no better than the gear guys that bash fly fisherman. People like you is was causes the hate hate relationship between the gear and fly guys. You are 24 yrs old. ACT LIKE IT.
What part of "I have been reading this thread since it started" didnt you get. Are you that stubborn or just dumb.
You stated "If you are going to threaten a veteran there will be some hostility." how is that not a threat.
Here is an English lesson for ya
Hostility means: giving attitude, being antagonistic, being unfriendly, possibly a hostle act, opposition or resistance to an idea, plan, project, act, etc, also could mean act of war. how could that not be taken as a threat.

You are seriously an idiot! You don't even understand your own words... If you did you would realize that this whole thread has been hostile. I never said "If you are going to threaten a veteran there will be some hostility." I said scold. Hostility as in "Flak".

You said:
Here is an English lesson for ya
Hostility means: giving attitude, being antagonistic, being unfriendly, possibly a hostle act, opposition or resistance to an idea, plan, project, act, etc, also could mean act of war. how could that not be taken as a threat.

Doesn't that mean any debate or argument? Let's see... I'm opposed to Hobbs' idea and he's opposed to mine... If your definition is correct then that would mean we are both hostile towards each other. Does that mean we threatened each other? No!

The way you talk WE this WE that. It sounds like you've been a member on here for awhile. So what's your real username. How am I a hypocrite for PMing someone and not the other. I'm not preaching people to PM or anything.

Here's an english lesson for you.
Hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.

Wait, doesn't that make you a hypocrite? Your username is "BENICE" yet you're not being very nice.

You said "Hiding behind another username, seriously, what are you smoking. You really pull some stuff out of your butt." Lol, way to act your age.

Go back into your hole you've been hiding in.

AfricanAngler · Senior Member

ONEWEIGHT wrote:

I think this has reached a point where we can only resort to one final act. I propose we erect an Octogan at Access 2 on New year's Day and have a mixed martial arts submission match for all who want to enter. We could line up paramutual betting and everything. It would give us a chance to participate in a more enriching fashion here.

If we could get this thing going around 11:00 AM, I know my hangover will be about gone. If someone could bring a tarp, we could cover the ring in the event of rain.

I propose Brian Clemens as referee, being that he has weathered these battles in the past and has undoubtedly learned from prior experience to referee is better than participate. We could do a creek cleanup afterwards?

Bob

Hey we could sell tickets and raise some money for PCT biggrin

-- Edited by AfricanAngler on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 04:37:54 PM

Black Cloud · Senior Member

ONEWEIGHT wrote:

I think this has reached a point where we can only resort to one final act. I propose we erect an Octogan at Access 2 on New year's Day and have a mixed martial arts submission match for all who want to enter. We could line up paramutual betting and everything. It would give us a chance to participate in a more enriching fashion here.

If we could get this thing going around 11:00 AM, I know my hangover will be about gone. If someone could bring a tarp, we could cover the ring in the event of rain.

I propose Brian Clemens as referee, being that he has weathered these battles in the past and has undoubtedly learned from prior experience to referee is better than participate. We could do a creek cleanup afterwards?

Bob

We could call it the_ Putah Creek Christmas/New year Soap Opera V__ I will bring the popcorn.

James

Bob, I don't think there is enough parking at #2, the bridge would be better.

-- Edited by Black Cloud on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 04:50:19 PM

LilWhippersnapper · Senior Member

AfricanAngler wrote:

ONEWEIGHT wrote:

I think this has reached a point where we can only resort to one final act. I propose we erect an Octogan at Access 2 on New year's Day and have a mixed martial arts submission match for all who want to enter. We could line up paramutual betting and everything. It would give us a chance to participate in a more enriching fashion here.

If we could get this thing going around 11:00 AM, I know my hangover will be about gone. If someone could bring a tarp, we could cover the ring in the event of rain.

I propose Brian Clemens as referee, being that he has weathered these battles in the past and has undoubtedly learned from prior experience to referee is better than participate. We could do a creek cleanup afterwards?

Bob

Hey we could sell tickets and raise some money for PCT

-- Edited by AfricanAngler on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 04:37:54 PM

Now that's the best idea in this whole thread.

rgloft · Senior Member

-- Edited by rgloft on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 07:58:45 PMHU

HUG AND KISSES EVERYONE , AND MERRY CHRISTMAS

-- Edited by rgloft on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 08:00:45 PM

LilWhippersnapper · Senior Member

Now that's a threat! Lol.

Xnjb707X · Senior Member

rgloft wrote:

I think everyone needs to stop all this negitivity and I hope some one doesent like it so I can a take baseball bat to your head ass holes shut the **** up your turning this forum in to **** and this world needs more of this **** right , I fly fish for a break from all the **** in the world just shut the **** up let and it go I am serous this **** has gone on for to long and it aint enteraining

Now thats gangster.

bono · Master Fly Fishing Guide

WOW Rich that really is GANGSTER!!!! I know you dont mean it though....... right? Well lets just assume you dont! LOL .Anyhow I think this is the perfect spot to officially end this thread, this happens every year and every year we all have different opinions which is ok. I personally am an anti-conflct kinda guy and it bothers me a bit so see some of this language on the site.So lets remember next year when this is brought up again (and I know it will) lets just keep it clean and civil like we do with all the other threads. I hope everyone has a very happy holiday. Bono

THE BIG PIKER · Veteran Member

LOOK WHAT I FOUND ON THE REDDS BELOW THE BRIDGE TODAY , WASN'T THEIR YESTERDAY ? NEED see who doing this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Counted 8 yesterday , 3 today , Let's hope their hiding . MOSES

-- Edited by THE BIG PIKER on Thursday 23rd of December 2010 04:11:50 PM

hobbs · Senior Member

Now thats something to get riled up about!! Case in point of the real issues on Putah Cr. Thats classic.....grrr!!

hobbs · Senior Member

rgloft wrote:

-- Edited by rgloft on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 07:58:45 PMHU

HUG AND KISSES EVERYONE , AND MERRY CHRISTMAS

-- Edited by rgloft on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 08:00:45 PM

LOL...thats funny. You too. Did you get my message about the fly tying?