Tight lines I couldn't repond to your post so I had to start a new one. Anyway I smell poison oak and I get it. And everytime I have to go and see the doc for a shot. Anyway back in April after my last episode with it at the McCloud I stumbled on IVY BLOCK. You can buy it at walgreen's and it has done the trick for me. You might want to try it. Good Luck!!!