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I'm getting the impression that some of my "zeroing" on Putah may be related to oversized flies.

Is it true that most fish will skip taking a bug that is even a size or tow larger than they are looking for?  

One day I was using a pheasant tail bug that was a 16 or so.   Nothing!


Then I came home and read about someone else killing them on PT's.



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I picked up a fine mesh that attaches to my net, it stores in a little stuff pocket on the handle when you don't need it. It comes in handy for figuring out what size bugs are in the water. Just match what turns up in your net to what you have in your box. Helps with size, color & pattern. Was pretty cheap too.

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I use smaller flies on Putah.  There are a select few who hammer fish on larger flies, but I'm not one of them. 



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size 16 will get you into some decent fish on putah... There are some guys (not me) that even do well throwing streamers consistently.

Why dont you tie on a size 16 and and a 20-22 and see which works for you ?



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Sometimes a new pattern or variant tie of a creek standard that has not gone over the fish a thousand times may work. I was below the bridge watching a fellow pound that first run with no success on a three dropper rig using a PT, caddis pupa and midge pupa. I asked if he had anything unusual in his box and he came up with a micromay pattern variant size 18 tied with a little flashabou. He tied it on the top and had three fish almost immediately before I left. I have good success with streamers, but they are not your everyday off the shelf patterns.

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Like SK60 said, I can't tell you how many times I hammered away at a spot for awhile and nothing, Make a fly change and fish on right away. Although I don't think that trout have a very developed brain or any type of real memory but they sure know not to hit an imitation twice. Overall I think smaller is better on putah.

-- Edited by shon42073 at 10:05, 2008-10-05

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As a general rule, for the size you think the fly is, go one smaller. If you think a bug is a 16, tie on an 18. I don't know why, but this seems to work.

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I use all same small bugs as everyone else....I also use a equal amount of larger flies with very good success....You wont know if you dont try....Iam pretty sure my jumbo micro may helped a few others catch and land some fish this summer...
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Memebop, there are two popular versions of the PT nymph.  The English version (Sawyer PT) is tied with only pheasant tail and copper wire; it has no legs and is usually quite slender in profile.  The American version has a body made of pheasant tail, a thorax made of pea****, and legs made of pheasant tail.  This version is usually a bit more robust in profile than the English version.  Thus, when someone tells you that he is having success with a "PT nymph", he could be using either version.  I have used both versions at Putah and have success with both. 



-- Edited by Nohackle at 21:41, 2008-10-06

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I got mine the other day on size 14

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size 16 mm quickly became my fly of the summer after mx19 posted success with a jumbo micromay #16. I still tied a slim version but using a size 16 hook was the jumbo part for me. I had been using size 18-24's for quite a few seasons and most of the time I was drifting a #20 with a #22 dropper. I swore by that set-up. But this year I changed and went big and boy did I go big. Right on mx19 and someday we need to compare those micromays. Blend them together and I bet we go even bigger.

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Hmmmmmm, So thats the MattR secret huh, A 20 with a 22 dropper biggrin.

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That aint no secret.  I know what that 22 is too!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

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Yeah that set up works but you also lose more fish and bend more hooks I'm convinced its all about a good buggy looking fly and that perfect drift. I fished with a size 16 for months on Putah this summer and did better than ever. I definitely caught the heaviest fish I've ever caught out of Putah this year and if it were on a small hook not a chance I would of landed it.

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