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Hi all...this is my first post. I was fishing putah today (bait/lure fishing...not fly fishing) and had a great time. Caught 1 nice 12 incher and a bunch of small planters. Had a conversation with a cool guy who mentioned this forum. I'm going to be doing a lot more fly fishing in the future and hope I can ask a few questions on this board from time to time...what gear to buy, when/where to fish, etc. I'm reading as much as I can about fly fishing as well. Right now I have a (very cheap) fly rod and reel I bought at the winters general store in like '95. I think I'll stick with it for awhile until I know what's up. I do need a decent set of waders, though...my duck hunting waders don't cut it in the summer. :D Anyway, wanted to introduce myself! Tight lines...

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   Hey New User,
          It's great that your giving flyfishing a go.  As far as for waders,
     Check out  Sportchalet.com. They are selling Toggs breathable waders
     for $50, for that price I  see it a good deal and with little care should last
     a few summers. (no financial intrest for me what so ever)  Tight Lines!

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welcome and your in for one hell of a learning curve biggrin. good luck.

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Welcome aboard! I would check out the "Keyword Search" to help answer any questions...Tons of great information.

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I would bone up on the NZMS. You don't want to transfer them to other waters. Have fun out there!

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Don't forget to fill out a Putah Creek Angler Survey each and every time you fish, whether or not you catch anything.  This is valuable information being collected by the DFG.

http://www.putahcreekflyfishing.com/putahcreeksurvey.html 






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Hi New User,
Welcome to the world of fly fishing. I think that you will have many years of enlightenment with your new endeavor.

My advice for a newbie: start a relationship with a local fly fishing specialty shop. There are three reputable shops in the Sacramento area operated by sharp people (plus the Orvis shop... sorry... no opinion formulated yet) that can get you started. Besides product, the shops offer services like instruction, guiding, and trips. With you as a newbie, the instruction might interest you. Also its a great place to use as a resource for future fishing outings.

AbelBoy

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My 2 cents, you don't need to spend a lot of money on rods and reels and stuff, and you don't need a box of a million different type of flies. You'll do well to limit yourself to a handful of generic patterns in a couple of different sizes, the biggest improvement you will experience will not come from spending money on equipment but from learning about the bugs you're trying to imitate and the techniques it takes to make a good presentation.

Time with a guide can be good, especially for learning about an unfamiliar water, but also look for anything like nymph fishing clinics offered by local fly shops. If you had nothing but stimulators and parachute adams for dries and some copper johns, caddis poopah's, and WD40's for nymphs you've got most conditions covered for trout in northern california. Avoid the "this is the fly their hitting in such and such a stream" rat-hole. In most cases some good standards presented skillfully will do just fine anyway. Until you have a better idea of WHY you would need a different fly there's no point in buying all that stuff. Knowledge and skills are 45% of fly fishing, equipment is about 5%, and getting your butt out there and putting in quality time is the other 50%.

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Thanks for the replies, guys. I should say I have fly fished before...I had a golfing buddy who grew up fly fishing teaching me (at putah) several years ago. But as Windknots said, I really have absolutely no clue what flies to use. Nor how to do anything but a roll cast. Basically the guy who was teaching me taught me how and why to mend my line, and how to cast. There used to be a fly fishing shop in Vacaville that I went to...The owner's name was Toby IIRC. He sold me a new line for my rod and a bunch of flies back in '04 I think. Even though I caught fish the 4 or 5 times I went out, I know I was doing a bunch of stuff wrong though. Lots of knots and snarls, etc. I know my technique is probably way wrong. Basically I was doing whatever I had to do to keep the right "drift" (if I'm using that term correctly) for the fly...i.e. having the fly go downstream in front of the line rather than having the current make the fly look weird to a fish.

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Welcome.

2 things.

1) Read, read read.

a Good starters book is the "Curtis Creek Manifesto"

2) Take a casting class

This will literally take 3 years off your learning curve. It is impossible to catch a fish that has been spooked by a sloppy cast.


Welcome to fly fishing! Warning, it is an extremely addictive and expensive sport.


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Just got done reading the Curtis Creek Manifesto. Great...the author seems really cool. I went to a fly fishing shop in Citrus Heights last week and bought a bunch of flies and went out last wednesday. I caught one 4 inch rainbow (I'm assuming it's probably native b/c they probably don't plant them that small?) using a copper john. Lots of [unintentional] knots in my line, though. I guess it's that learning curve everyone has been talking about...

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Hi New User,
I get all my gear from that shop. Rick Fox is one of my fishing buddies. He may be a nut, but that dude can fish!

AbelBoy

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yeah knots can occur when your loop isnt turning over correctly / or the timing of your cast is either too fast, etc. For putah though, honestly you probably dont even need to false cast too much.. If you do, once is probably enough.


Practice a good roll cast or just lobbing back up when the line is directly below you


Look up Jeff Putnam. I've never taken his classes, but that guy is legit for casting classes. I wish I started casting classes with him when I first started out instead of the self taught over "x" amount of years.



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