Hello All, Back again from my seasonal job and even more addicted to flyfishing. I've been looking for some nymphs (zebra midges, RS2) that i can't find here in Vacaville. Any suggestions of what flyshop i should go? any help would be great. thanks.
Fishing isnt about catching fish, its not about who caught the most, or who caught the biggest, its about the experience that you have on the water, and the life long bonds you make with others on the journey to becoming a better person inside.
I find it best to purchase fly's online, I have used the big Y fly co. Average cost is only 55 cents, Quality is good. I too have been looking for some RS2's, can't seem to find em. I'd get lots of midges in various colors, Small pheasant tails, hares ear's, prince's, rockworms, and of course the good ol fox pupah. I'd also get a few gnat dry's size 20 or smaller. Oh and maybe a brassie or 2. Hey as a ranger do you get into enforcing the regs. along the creek ? Last year I saw guys bait fishing many times along the creek in winter time. If ya need to get fly's in a pinch theres the store in winters that has an ok selection, and pardhesa store of course.
Fishing isnt about catching fish, its not about who caught the most, or who caught the biggest, its about the experience that you have on the water, and the life long bonds you make with others on the journey to becoming a better person inside.
ok forget about the blyflycafe.com, much cheap at the bigyflyco.com
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Fishing isnt about catching fish, its not about who caught the most, or who caught the biggest, its about the experience that you have on the water, and the life long bonds you make with others on the journey to becoming a better person inside.
You could always take up fly tying. That way you could tie up your own variations. If not, you can hit up Kiene's or American Fly Fishing, both in Sacramento.
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I agree with JT. Not to sound ****y but I have RS2's you simply cannot find on the internet. It's a deadly pattern especially if you figure out a couple the fish haven't seen yet.
I work for the Natl. Park Service. thus, my influence extends only to federal land. Although, i do have some friends that are Game Wardens and i'll definitely give them a call. It's terrible, i know. 3 days ago, i was out near the bridge and i heard of 3 idiots bait fishing and snagging 15 large natives altogether. thanks for the info. I'm still not smart enough to learn to make my own.
That sounds about right. There was a hole that was stacked with BIG fish last week that was pretty much void of anything over 10" the other day. I wish they would leave the flows up until trout season closed. Those monsters are like sitting ducks in low, clear flows.
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and what really sucks is those big ones taste like crap. almost like bitting into rubber. its the same way with any animal. like deer, yes the trophy bucks are nice, but the younger deer is what taste the best, the older they get the gamier they are. same way with trout or salmon. i love those big salmon but will take a 10 lber over a 50 lber any day. even though i keep and aint my 50 lber i caught this yr. shoot that thing still had sea lice on it. fresh as fresh could be. ate some of it raw right on the river, river sushi style. i think we need to start tellin those bait dunkers that you cant keep anything over 16" and you cant keep natives what so ever. even though that aint true. if we all start implementing this strategy it might work if they keep hearing it from everyone out there. hey you never know. you guys think that might be a good idea to start doing.
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Fishing isnt about catching fish, its not about who caught the most, or who caught the biggest, its about the experience that you have on the water, and the life long bonds you make with others on the journey to becoming a better person inside.
I totally agree with that. Trout, no matter how pretty taste like mud, salmon is the best but I get most of mine at the store and steelhead taste somewhere in between which makes sense. I'm glad we're fired up about the native fish harvest but what's gonna prevent it? When ARE things going to change at Putah? If change comes will we be able to fish it all year? In order to build it back to what it used to be there may be time off for a couple months? Has there ever been a "restoration" project done for Putah?
just so you know i wouldnt eat to much of that store bought salmon, the put a lot of dye, preservatives and what not it in, to make it look fresh and stay fresh. its really bad for you in large quantities. one peice here and there is ok. i just get mine out of the river. i catch enough to last me the eniter yr. and sometimes i give mine away towards the end when i am sick of eating salmon. but ya the younger the trout steelhead or salmon the better tasting it will be. same with deer pig cow. the younger it is the fresher tastier tender the meat will be.
the trout that taste like mud or most likely 99% of the time are planters, they swim in there crap, they eat crap so they will also taste like crap. the worst tasting trout i ever had was from lake almador. straight gritty. like eating dirt. i spit it out threw all of the fish away, and ordered a pizza. horrible. but you get some 12-16"f fat natives (yes i have keep some in the past not from putah but from the carson and truckie tributes) they taste the best. i havent tasted browns yet but i know cappy can tell you about the browns
-- Edited by brian clemens at 17:01, 2007-11-15
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Fishing isnt about catching fish, its not about who caught the most, or who caught the biggest, its about the experience that you have on the water, and the life long bonds you make with others on the journey to becoming a better person inside.
It would be a shame if we lost all of these large wild trout. Changing Putah's current trout management laws might help. If the rules were changed to only being able to keep trout, say, 12" and under that would insure that Putah's large breeding stock would be maintained and enjoyed by all. Effectively stopping some of the guys on the river who don't seem to give a damn from commiting the above atrocities.
And more importantly let's not forget that when big fish breed they pass on their big fish genes. It never made much sense to me to save the smaller fish that may be genetically inferior to the larger wild trout. Lee Wulff said once that "Killing the big fish and sparing the small ones to breed changed the character of the runs, reducing the average size of the fish." Makes sense to me.
Overcrowding is another issue I'd like to address. The last few weekends have been crazy. I've heard of some rivers requiring special tags that were split into two groups. One group has access to the river on the first and third weekends and the second group has access on the second and fourth weekend... and everybody can use it on the weekdays. Might work on Putah.
emerger i never keep ones from putah. just the carson. and a size limit would be nice to put on the fish on putah, but that might take a while, if it even happens at all. 12" is a lil on the small side i would like to see a 10"-14" rule applied. that gives the lil guys time to grow up and the large ones to get larger and make more baby ones. just me speaking out. but a size limit isnt up to us. maybe bono can shed some light on this subject
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I think it is up to us, meaning that we can make it happen. It would just take some research and probably influencing, read educating, the proper people.
When I spend a few days in the sierras eating pork and beans out of a can, I am gonna keep a fish to grill. Hell I keep one or two a year outta hundreds.
Oh I have definitely killed and q'd some fish in my day, I'm from Idaho for god's sake. They only release em in the southeastern part of the state. A fresh fish from a high mountain stream can taste good. If you can wait for the lactic acid to leave then sure. I feel like I can fill a chest full of better tasting food however and I'm not saying that because I am a release fishermen, I simply don't like trout. Wild salmon is over 20 bucks a pound but I pony up a couple times a month.
That 20 dollar a lb wild salmon is some good stuff, As Brian stated if you are not familair with how farm raised salmon are raised and the damage that this practice does to the enviroment, You should look into it, Not going to get into it here but its gross, If its atlantic salmon it is always gonna be farm raised. I only will keep a few trout when i go camping, But only sometimes. A few years ago i did catch a 19 incher out of putah it got all wrapped up in the leader and was in bad shape, So i kept it, And it was some dam good eating, all red meat just like a salmon, very tastey, Brian the brown trout are good but the few i have eatin were not red meat, But again wrapped in foil with some butter, lemon, on the grill is very good. The planters are not good to eat at all, But i have come up with a way to prepare them that is good, I make a batch of trout jerky out of em, Soak overnight in soy sauce, kosher salt, brown sugar and black pepper, then dry em and put it in the smoker till its good and dryed out like beef jerky, A pretty tastey stream side snack. I agree with cole, I usually take a cooler full of good stuff, like steaks, Although i did go with practically nothing a time or two last summer.
It can be...we go in November and freeze our a's off. The fish hit so hard you hardly know what happened. My buddy has a 14 foot aluminum boat and we take that to get to where we want to be. Once there we either walk the shore or float tube near the tullies. Kinda like Pyramid, the worse the weather, the better the fishing. Sometimes it's really cool you see the fish tailing in the shallows as they turn rocks with their noses looking for scuds. We use a fly there we call a knucklehead, it's basically a small bugger tied with a marabou tail and crystal chennile body.
yes i mean planters, i dont keep wild/native trout, only planters.
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