I haven't fished this creek in a couple years. Still have a nice box of home tied custom favorites wasting away in a closet. I have to say that in my opinion this creek is a shadow of what it was years ago.
My partner caught a 12 lb rainbow in there around 94-95 on a custom little caddis pattern. Curious to hear the take of some old timers on here on the glory days of this once great fishery.
Also what happened? Years ago 20 inch to 24 inch fish were so common if you fished a few hours and didn't get one to hand that size it was a bad day.
Some memories-I remember when I got my first piece of advice from a friend-tie a sparse pt and wrap a couple wraps of red wire right up at the head. I remember fishing downstream of deer sign with a pt emerger with a bit of flybox foam for a little white floating wingcase into pods of 40-60 rising wild fish-hookups almost every cast.
I remember my first rainbow caught there in the rain when I was 14 above the bridge near the dam back before they rearranged that area-great little weedy runs in there.
I remember when I learned to take two fine pieces of crystal flash and divide it coming out of the wingcase area of my thread bodied little nymphs and the success it brought.
I remember fishing the same cast-two fly secret skinny caddis tie (weighted) on top and a dropper of a thread bodied baetis for months without changing flies. I remember taking a co worker who liked trout fishing but never fly fished much and getting him into his first 20 plus incher on the fly.
I always remember the snagger jackasses being on the redds harassing the fish.
I remember the summer salmon egg guys pulling out tons of fish.
I remember arriving about when the sun began to hit the water and talking to Orvis'ed out guys fishing since dawn who caught nary a fish and hooking up first couple casts. I remember catching a few browns which seem to have all but disappeared. I remember float tubing up near the dam with streamers and having a tough time landing the hogs in there.
I remember before the internet. I remember reading Tom Stienstras California fishing book and how he downplayed the creek rating it quite low in his publication. (I think he knew some waters are best left unpromoted)
I remember when the flows dropped in early fall the great fishing and how deserted the creek was-now the flows dip a bit that time of year and its game on.
It reminds me of Butt Valley reservoir before they drained it and brought on the squawfish revolution in there.
I remember the effectiveness of home tied flies-gotta show em something DIFFERENT than they are used to-gotta be creative. I remember the effectiveness for a couple season of the red copper john-sparse tie small-before its success just vaporized-I think from pressure.
What factors have led to this waters downfall? It was once probably one of the best streams I have ever fished-like the Upper Sac before the spill.
I have to believe the population increase and internet has had an impact. Fishing pressure and also I have heard rumors from people I know of a group of guys bait fishing with live minnows at night in there for YEARS-that probably has finally hurt it. I know there used to be so many big trout it was stupid-I don't think so anymore.
Curious to hear what some of the opinions are on this.
I would like to add a bit of content thats positive as well so if you tie for Putah try this-size 18-20 tiemco hook-get a wide gapped barbless with a bit of length and curve to the shank. Light grey thread wrap for the body-small clear plastic bead-tiny bit of black flash dub-tiny bit right behind the bead optional is add two tiny lengths of crystal flashabou? (can't remember the name) split like little wings. Or this cream thread body-tail or no tail maybe 2 wood duck flank feathers work dark pheasant wingcase with a bit of sparkle dub-like hares earish color under the wingcase-tease out a bit of the flash. Or maybe the caddis size 16 longshank curve hook weighted with lead rabbit dub black wire rib black tungsten bead with a wrap of sparkle dub behin the bead. Or try a biot baetis-a pain to tie but works pretty good too. Or olive thread body clear plastic bead no tail tiny bit of pheasant tail wrapped up behind the bead with two tiny lengths of crystal flash like little wings. Thread bodies rule quick and easy to make and quite effective-I have found best success with colors that contrast each other-maybe 3 components to a fly but stark contrast at Putah its gotta be unique/different in my opinion.
Skinny flies always worked best for me back in the day. I don't know why but I have just lost interest in this fishery-as of a couple years ago it doesn't measure up to what it once was.
Tie the fly. Drift the fly. Catch the trout. Repeat.
Reading your post makes me jealous. I have fished PC for ~ 3 years now and have only known challenge. There have been fleeting moments that I have known the tug and flight of a huge trout taking me to the reel and peeling off line only to come unbuttoned and leaving my jaw agape. They are still there but my impression is that they are getting more scarce and wiley. I remember my first few outings were frustrating. Steve took me out on the creek, gave me some tips and showed me some spots. After this and after gleaning information from the wise ones on this board, I have found considerably more success. I have fished a few other rivers on occasion and have not found better fish in terms of fight and quality. They may not be as consistantly big as they once were but these are wild and healthy thanks to the work of PCT and volunteers who care about this water. I am so happy that I have the PC as my home water - she may never see those Halcyon days of behemoth browns but she also is not a garbage filled slew either. She is becoming presentable.
Happy and safe holidays,
Dan
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I am not gonna give up my flies-too attached to em and the chance is there that I might fish Putah from time to time. I am just not interested in having secret patterns-if you tie you can have much greater success in flyfishing in general-I can't imagine going on a fishing trip and not having some tyin stuff with me. For Putah I have found in terms of tying that less is more. Plus when you go through flies and fish tear em up and all its nice to have effective easy quick to tie stuff. I just threw in a few proven patterns to try to add some positive content to the board. I am not that old but in relation to Putah I feel like a cranky old man haha. Not my favorite fly but one that was shown to me by a proven creek guy is red thread body with a wrap of pea**** herl up near the head and wood duck flank over the herl(best in size 20) Super easy to tie.
Thanks for the memories. It's another case of how things change over time. Very similar story to the Truckee. Also to the Niners! Personally, I do not get a chance to fish Putah much anymore. The only time that really works for me relative to spawning season is March-May, and honestly, that's primetime on another river I like to fish.
Circumstances change, and Putah is sure reflective of that. Fishing survey results would seem to indicate a turnaround is in process for the creek. I'd like to think we've done some things to enhance this over the last couple of years with spawning bed restoration, spawning fish census as well as a general population census of the creek.
I would hope that the efforts are affecting the creek in a positive way. My bet is that they definitely are. Perhaps in a few more years, we are talking a great story about the continuing comeback of Putah Creek.
I used to fish putah a little over 20 years ago. I used to go up to putah a few times a week drift nightcrawlers and catch and keep tons of very large wild trout. Looking back of course I feel bad for that. I rarely fish it these days.
I first fished Putah Creek around 64 when I got my drivers liscense. I didn't start fishing it regularly until the mid 70's. My favorite memory is when I was wading up a chute about 10 to 15 feet wide with overhanging trees. I was catching a fish almost at every cast when I looked up and saw what appeared to be Rodan flying around the corner. The Great Blue Heron and I went into an evasive mode and just barely missed each other.
Another time my buddy and I were fishing up by the bridge. Back then there was an island in the center that you could just barely wade to if you were careful. We had just purchased the latest Red Ball waders that came with a little air bladder up by your chest that you blew air into. Anyway we waded across to the island and still had to go around it to fish the run with big fish. My buddy and I started forward and the water kept getting deeper. Pretty soon we were floating the last ten feet supported by the air bladder. Neither one of us said a thing as we were trying not to take any water into our waders. When we finally touched the bottom we starting laughting that the waders had worked.
Another time we went up in late winter and the creek was raging. But you could see it had been 6 or 8 feet higher. We started fishing and didn't do much until we noticed there were dead fish up in the trees. They were decomposing and maggots were falling into the creek. We searched our fly boxes for something small and white. I think I cut up a fly that had white or gray in the body and my buddy found his own small fly. We had a great day on what we now call the maggot hatch.
My favorite fly was a double renegade fished wet. Starting in the spring I would fish the backwater along the road and catch 40 or 50 fish in a day. By October, when the water first dropped I would wade across the creek and fish the trailer hole. I would always catch at least one, and often several large trout in the 20 inch plus range. One time I caught a huge fish in a hole and released him in front of a plug fisherman on the otherside of the river. I then caught one even larger. While going to release it he tossed his plug right next to me and told me to put it on his hook if I was going to release it. I told him to catch his own. I used to fish with a small 8 foot five weight with the renegade and a dropper of some kind, usually a green rock worm. Many times I caught a huge fish in a small hole and hung on as best I could in the fast water. Several times I'd reached for a fish only to have it make a run and get the top fly caught in my finger. Ouch.
It mush have been the early to mid 80's when I first started seeing problems. Someone, I assume from the campground by the bridge went in with a chain saw and clearer the brush along a stretch of the creek to make it easier to cast. He eliminated the cover and the hole was never the same. Then I started going up and would find several cars parked in the holes I liked to fish. Then I found out that New Zealand mud snails were in the creek. I'd take my waders and showes home and put them in a plastic bag and then put them into the freezer. Once while up there I was fishing the far fork near the car hole when two guys came down and started fishing on either side of me. I had to finally get out and walk way around them. From then on I stopped going up as often as I used to. Instead of 10 to 15 times a year I would go 1 or 2 times. Now I go up once every year of so. I think, part of the problem, is that they used to stock the creek. When it became a Wild and Scenic the stocking stopped. There are only a few places where trout can span and I often see people fishing the redds or wading through them. Its still a lot of fun to fish, but now that I've retired and I'm 66 years old I just don't enjoy it the way I used to. I don't mind not catching as many fish or as big, but I just don't enjoy the number of fishermen.
Ed and Grahler I really enjoyed reading your posts and you both brought back some great memories of what the creek used to be! I too remember using the version of a renegade that had mcfly foam tied to the tail area of the fly, a guy from Winters used to tie this fly and he would freakin slay the fish with it. I've used this fly off and on since and cant seem to buy a fish on it. Another fly that worked really well for me was a size 18 scud hook with olive dubbing tied to it, that was it, and thats pretty much the only fly that I knew how to tie with my vice grip vice ( now thats trailer trash).Ed you mentioned a run by the upper bridge that someone made accessable with a chain saw.I wonder if that was the same run that was on the campground side of the creek just upstream of the bridge. That particuler bucket during the higher summer flows would always produce at least 3 or 4 fish and at least 2 of those would push 20 plus inches. But someone from Canyon Creek Resort removed the willow and black berry bushes that made fishing that run from the shore impossible , now possible and the run declined almost immediately . Ican go on forever digging back to memories of 35 years of fishing the creek on an almost daily basis (thats the beauty of living at access #5 when I was growing up). But it looks like after an all time low a few years back the creek is starting to make a slow but sure comeback thanks to the efforts of alot of people and agencies that have put many many hours of their time to get the creek back to a shadow of what it used to be.
This is pretty much speculation, but I believe that the flooding of 2005 and 2006 really took a great toll on the stream and the stream is still in a recovery mode. During late March of 2005 the water in Lake Berryessa spilled over the Glory Hole and the stream flow exceeded 2300 CFS. In 2006 the flooding was even worse. In early January the stream flow hit an incredible 7180 CFS and in March it again exceeded 7000 CFS. Needless to say, the stream overflowed its banks and was unfishable for about two months. My belief is that the 2006 flooding not only wiped out the spawn of 2006, but also killed a lot of the young trout in the stream. I'm guessing this occurred because the smallest trout in the stream are the most vulnerable to stream problems. Then, if you fast-forward several years, it's easy to understand why the numbers of fish spawning have been drastically reduced; the population of now spawning-sized fish was decimated by the aforementioned floods. Like Greg, I believe that the stream is definitely recovering, but the process of re-generating its fish population takes a lot of time.
The flooding in 05-06 probably did put a dent in the fish pop, but the creek got a huge cleaning after all those massive flows. It washed away a lot of silt and weeds and made some great spawning areas for the following spawning season. I think all rivers need a natural cleansing every once in awhile. On average in the past 100 years we have had heavy rains that bring flood like conditions once every 7 years or so. So we are do for another one sooner or later.
Risking a statement of the obvious, you'd have to say that the principal reason Putah produced far more fish 20 years ago is because many of them were put there whereas today none are.
I wasn't even in the Bay Area in the 80's or 90's but I can say it's always a good day on the creek, even if I get skunked! It is a great place to relax and enjoy the sport of flyfishing.
A great story about the flood of 05/06. The Glory Hole blew out the creek and at one time there was a parking lot at Access 2. The parking lot was under water for some time until about March or April of 06. I was walking around by the Car Battery hole and saw a bunch of puddles of water that were alive with wiggling trout fry. I cut off the bottom of a plastic coke bottle and saved about 100-150 stranded trout fry. I sometimes think that some of the fish caught in the last few years could of have been some of the trout I saved. Some of the fish hatched and did survive the floods of 05/06!
The glory hole scouring the creek bed this year would be a good thing. The mud and weeds we have now have been increasing every year since the '06 topping last cleaned PC out. The best thing about the tube topping over is there isn't the same silt load like that which comes out of Cold Creek and Thompson Canyon Creek spills.
personally iv been hitting the creek hard since before the reg change and maybe its cause im a lure fisherman but ive never struggled to get fish over 20 inches i think it has to with fishing the entire creek iv gone from the very top to the diversion damn and hunted n determined the best spots and im still pullin in lunkers its good to put em back too because i do believe i see a rise in population
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The big ones are in putah just have to know what your doin!
You're pulling larger fish because you're using larger lures and they aren't really pressured during the summer, don't get too ****y. I pull them easily with streamers. It's better to see the large amount of smaller fish present. That means the population is starting to thrive.
and the man was talking about the old days catching big fish consistently and easily and it is nice to see a rise in small fish cuz that means spawning is going well and the habitat is sustaining the fish but i dont enjoy catching small trout i enjoy catching big trout iv caught to many little trout and am hunting trophy trout so dont be offended and i catch them all year long not just summer so pressure is always there. im expressing my freedom to post and comment. so please respect that right and dont be a male genitalia.
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The big ones are in putah just have to know what your doin!