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As I wrapped up my last session out at the creek for the next few months. I was crossing back across the creek and grabbed on to a branch and caught a handful of flies in my hand! Ouch, not to mention they still hand the brabs on them... Shame on you whoever didn't pinch down the barbs... It was not fun to pull a fly out of my hand with a barb on it nor is it ever fun for the fish. Not to mention the creeks regs are barbless! So on that note, FYI THE CREEK IS BARBLESS! This isn't the first time this year I have found flies along the creek without their barbs pinched down.. shame shame. no

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I to have been pulling rigs out of trees, the bottom as well as fish that are not debarbed. Thats some bad river karma to whom ever is not debarbing their hooks.

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How about the 12 mm trout bead with a #6 barbed octopus hook attached that I came accross yesterday?

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Beads are lame.



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shon42073 wrote:

Beads are lame.




For sure on that right there... beads and tailing hooks, haha might as well go back to bait dunking if you got to use those. Beading, thats dirty fly fishing. Ick..

- Nic



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Beads are lame.

I thought bobber fishing was lame?


For sure on that right there... beads and tailing hooks, haha might as well go back to bait dunking if you got to use those. Beading, thats dirty fly fishing. Ick..

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can I change my forum name to "Lame"......



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The "are beads ethical" thread is an on going thread. Lets not start another one. I personally have had issues in the past with glo bugs and glue eggs with fish swallowing them, which inturn can kill the fish. So I turned to beads, since then I have never had a fish swallow a bead. Also with beads there are 1000s of colors, and you can change those colors slightly with fingernail polish. Lame or not, I know that the fish will not be harmed or killed when I am fishing beads.

There is a difference between beading and fishing a bead. Beading is where you have a very small bead, 3mm and under, that is right at the hook, not pegged, this hook is attached to a leader that is usually 8ft-18ft long, which is inturn attached to a swivel that has some sort of weight attatched to it. That weight can be a egg, pencil, cannon ball or anyother sort of weight you like. This set up is then thrown out into the current, and as it drifts that long leader will line the fish since the fishes mouths open and close to get O2 through there gills, this is called lining fish. Now because it has a bead its considered legal by DFG, if there wasnt a bead then it would be illegal and considered snagging.

Fly fishing with a bead is when you take a bead and peg the bead with a peg it or a toothpick roughly an inch above the hook. When a fish takes the bead, you set the hook, and you hook the fish on the outside of its mouth. If you were using a glo bug or glue egg, the possibility of that fish swallowing the hook greatly increases, especially if you put the glo bug or glue egg as your last fly.



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I agree with brian. I havent been fising for almost a year but it seems its bad only on the creek. Its matching the hatch as long as its not harming the fish or lining the fish. Many people use this on other rivers. I also know that people use red midge pattern flies, I'm pretty sure that it some what immitates an egg to the fish that take them unless I'm mistaken. Can't hate on everyone.

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I'm just not a fan of pegging a bead and tailing the hook 6" from the bead. It just seems that if a fish goes to investigate the bead and the hook goes right into the fishes mouth without even taking the bead. I've seen fish chase streamers nose to nose with the fly but not even take it, but if I had a tailing hook it would have hooked him. Just sayin, that's all.. To each his own.


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I don't want to start anything here. I am am guilty ... I fish beads, but anyone that puts a bead 6" from the hook will foul a bunch of fish and should not be doing this. Personally I put "the stinger" no more than 1" and hook 85% of the fish in the mouth and the other 15% are on the "lips".

Personally I think fishing multiple fly rigs, which I fish, result in more foul hookings than lame beads so I am doubly guilty!!!

As Xnjb707X said  to each his own!!!

-- Edited by AfricanAngler on Wednesday 24th of November 2010 04:49:34 PM

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Like Alastair said max 1" above the hook is where the bead is pegged, I dont know who pegs their bead 6"s above their hook, but that is rediculaus. 1" is plenty. With a 6" gap you will snag a fish everytime. 1" gap between hook and bead will never snag a fish. Its either inside the mouth or on the lips.

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MX, that is what I wanted to do, you will have to  spell yours Lame'

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Beads like the one I found reallly don't have a legitimate use on PC-save them for the large waters with spawning salmon.

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