i heard you can catch the big dogs with spinning gear where the creek runs through UC Davis Campus. Beautifull water down that way. Wet wadding is a must there.
-- Edited by drifter at 20:42, 2008-07-08
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its the INDOOR CYCLING SET UP. you know the stand that goes on the back of your road bike so you can ride it in your house.
the best area for a spining set up is in your living room. turn on the tv and have fun.
but if you want to loose your training wheels (the stand) head to the american river bike trail. you can really rip it up out there. but i have seen a few bikers going up and down 128 on occations.
yup this is putah creek fly fishing. not putah creek spinning set up.
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its the INDOOR CYCLING SET UP. you know the stand that goes on the back of your road bike so you can ride it in your house.
the best area for a spining set up is in your living room. turn on the tv and have fun.
but if you want to loose your training wheels (the stand) head to the american river bike trail. you can really rip it up out there. but i have seen a few bikers going up and down 128 on occations.
yup this is putah creek fly fishing. not putah creek spinning set up.
Come on Brian, I just read another of your posts where you talked about a spinner fly with a treble hook and stinger working killer on Putah! You call that fly fishing?
I heard that the big ones are up cold creek. After the winter rains they get stuck in big pools. Never been up there myself because it is a long hike. I hope no one gets mad at me for posting this.
James
I also heard that it is a good place to go snipe hunting.
but on a true note for planters ill throw on just about anything. especially if i have company that i want to catch a lot of fish, or if i am just bored. it doesnt matter.
but here is a good question though, say i hand tie this fly would that be called fly fishing.
hahaha
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Since you guys have decided you are the stewards of putah creek and want all of us non fly fishers to be more responsible, more consevation minded and more like (you) minded by all means be rude disrespectful snobs cause that ishow to win us over to your side! I understand your frustration and all the anger that goes along with watching the off season poachers and all manner of jack a$$@$ that come up to OUR fabulous year round trout fishery but when some one asks your opinion you might want to cultivate a new friend who will care for the fishery! Putah creek is a resource MOST of us want to protect and most of us will respect and care for. Piss off a newbe with a can of worms and a spinning rod and he may keep every fish he catches native or stock big or small and not have the opportunity to learn from such well intentioned anglers as yourself.
The drama between fly anglers and spin guys will always be there.Its never going to go away.most fly guys are catch and realese and we get pissy when we see a guy with a big stinger..Just because it gets my panties in a bunch doesnt mean they are doing anything wrong.It just means I have control issuse.I will admitt that I get tired of all the trash left behind . We have all seen the beer cans and worm containers.I do my part and pick it up as I walk out.We should not categorize all the spin and bait guys as fish taking trash droppers.That is wrong.I can remember when I only used spin gear and I let every fish swim away and left no trash behind.I need to learn to be less judgemental..I would like to think I am open minded ,but I know we all have room for improvement.. mx19
bait fishing/spin fishing doesnt have the learning curve that fly fishing does and it doesnt have the necessity of learning the different forage etc. that fly fishing does, so most new anglers start that way and 80% of us stay with conventional tackle. trout fishing being what it is and many anglers that start in urban fishing areas with stock trout being the norm, year round open creel and trash cans every 50 ft along the pond/trail makes for a lot lazier( or at least more comfy) less appreciative angler or less knowlegeable angler who is more likely to keep everything he catches, kill more released fish, know less about local regs (and unfortunately care less many times) and need the guidance of those who care (sometimes to fanatical levels) about the resource. Ive been reading these posts for a few years and since its a fly fishing forum dont post but I tell you many of us feel the way you guys do. Ive eaten a native or two usually only when I hook em deep and they are bleeding. I keep most of the stock trout I catch ... they dont taste nearly as good but I feel better about taking them
Guadawg:::: Theres one thing that is wrong with your assumptions, it is not "OUR" year long trout fishery in the way you envisioned it. It is a FLY FISHING year long trout fishery, thank god for that. Read the regs.
-- Edited by drifter at 15:15, 2008-07-09
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Gudawg, I take my young nephews spin fishing for trout or bass and I try to instill in them all the good habits of conservation, catch & release, and picking up trash even if it isn't ours. We keep a few fish too and I make them take ownership of the decision and when it's OK and when it really is best to put them back. I've got many years of worms and spinners behind me, none of them I regret, I just get a much bigger kick out of using flies and believe it or not it gives you a lot more options for strategies to try without ever having to move your feet from where you're standing. So I've got no bone to pick with spin fisherman.
Glad you've been enjoying the posts here, I think it's one of the best sites on the web with lots of good info and people stay pretty well behaved and on-topic. I think you've probably noticed that there is a ground rule of not getting specific about exactly where you had a good day. It's much more about sharing techniques & experience to improve your fly fishing game because it is much more of a knowledge and skill based approach than spin fishing. So the initial post was about the equivalent of asking where is the best place to dynamite fish in Putah Creek, it's really that far off topic. I'm glad he did though because the responses have been hilarious.
If you ever get bored of your spinning setup try giving fly fishing a chance, you can offer a finicky fish everything on the menu rather than just an entree or two. (compare, how many different types of food can you imitate vs the 500-1000 or so flies in my boxes, each of which can be presented a variety of ways...)
drifter wrote: Guadawg:::: Theres one thing that is wrong with your assumptions, it is not "OUR" year long trout fishery in the way you envisioned it. It is a FLY FISHING year long trout fishery, thank god for that. Read the regs.
Drifter,
You may want to read the regs yourself. Putah is not restricted to only fly fishing in the winter. It is restricted to artificial lures with barbless hooks. It is true that you have to release everything you catch outside of regular trout season, but the last time I checked, you could still cast artificial lures with a spinning rod.
-- Edited by JT at 17:20, 2008-07-09
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Gudawg, have you ever considered trying flyfishing ? Leave the dark side and join us ! Hey nice penn spinning reel, I have the same one but larger for surf fishing.
I was thinking the same thing as Matt, nice fish man. I have seen dudes with Winston borons and G3 waders taking very nice large natives from Putah. I have also seen dudes wet wading in softball cleats and cutoff jean shorts who pinch their barbs and let the wild ones go. This is also part of the reason I took a little break from the web it's damn easy to accuse people from behind your computer. I was turning into an a-hole.
You may want to read the regs yourself. Putah is not restricted to only fly fishing in the winter. It is restricted to artificial lures with barbless hooks. It is true that you have to release everything you catch outside of regular trout season, but the last time I checked, you could still cast artificial lures with a spinning rod.
-- Edited by JT at 17:20, 2008-07-09
true that, just giving the guy a hard time.....it is a fly fishing forum after all......kindof funy i think
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Maybe its the heat or the smoke, but this is the crankiest string I have read since the great guide/spawner fishing debate of last winter.. I suspect that IF WIld Trout status for PC is going to happen, we are going to need positive and cooperative input and help from all that fish it, regardless of their technique.
Man you gotta love it! that would be artificial with single barbless hooks. I wonder do any of you use scent/smelly jelly ... I recall a post once a while back, hmmm. heh heh Any how the reel is a shakespear on a 7ft ultralight ugly stick with 4lb line and some times a 2lb leader. Ill stick to reading the posts for a while before I ruffle too many feathers ( or is that hackles on a fly fisherman) tight lines all!
Sure this is a fly fishing board, but I don't see a lot of difference between indicator nymph fishing and fishing with a bobber for salmon in a river like a lot of bait guys do from a technique standpoint.
If people are obeying the regs, and not littering, god bless em. They have every right to fish Putah creek, and every right to do it in any legal way they see fit.
Now if they weigh over 250 lbs and are having sex in the poison oak, well, they'll get what they deserve.
I for one like to talk to a lot of the folks I meet on the creek; be they bait fishers, spin fishers, two drunk old ladies skinny dipping at access five knocking back the cheap rum (no kidding), and the list goes on.
I spin-weeeeee, fly wooohooo, and bubble fly, know what I mean Vern?. I like to catch trout. I have been eating this creek's trout most of my life (since 1968).
The fly/spin attitude is like the "Not riding a Harley? BUZZ off!" If your thing is fly & release, great! So be it. Like many Harley owners, the method (or motorcycle) you use does not mean it is the BEST, or that anyone who choses something different is bad or wrong. It is just personal CHOICE. WHY do I hear such superior look down your nose attitudes towards bait fishers? Getting down on baiters reminds me of grade school bullies - immature and just being mean to be mean. And you want us to RESPECT you too??? I have been, and will always have, a deep passion for this jewel of a creek. I enjoy taking my daughters bait fishing here regularly. I am proud my daughters always show the ultimate respect for the creek and all the wildlife it sustains. I'll fly & release in winter thank you. Fishing is fishing (or at least I always thought so). I would feel very different about "keeping" if this creek wasn't heavily supplied with planters.
To leave only footprints, take what you are going to eat, and thank GOD for it's beauty.
I wish the alcohol drinkers, loud mouths, thumping car stereos, litter bugs, and boaters would just go somewhere else, as often they do not respect the other people visiting OR the creek and it's peacefulness. Ahh, but they have a right to be there too - just like us..... and you. I admit, it is hard to respect people who think they are superior, especially over something so trivial as my choice of fishing methods.
In the future, when the rubber hits the road for this creek for Wild Trout status designation, do you want to add to this fight (yes, there will be a fight) the negative comments of every non-flyfishing fisherman that has a stake in seeing that WT status doesn't happen? It seems to me that bridge building to a common ground is better than dissing those we may not agree with.