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I've been semi-lurking on this board, leeching info from the regulars.  One tip found here, however, was so productive, I thought I'd better give back some goodies.

The Fishing Report:
Since the flows appear to be up a bit, I thought I'd start at the bridge.  The current still looked anemic to me and there was a guy already fishing in the exact spot I wanted.  Talked to him for a bit and threw a few casts (1 take).  Went upstream and hooked 2 planters.  After an hour of basic futility, I went downstream.

It was much better downstream.  Started out catching 12-14" natives on #18 flashback PT's.  Then a decent caddis hatch came off and the fish were all over the #16 tan poopah.  Got a grab on every cast for about an hour with the best fish being 19" and 16" footballs.  I also felt lucky to land almost every hooked fish - obviously a #16 has superior purchase on the fish's mouth compared to a #20 or #22 hook.  After this flurry caught a few more on a #16 amber glass bead caddis and a prince.

Near the evening I went further downstream and had more luck with the poopah including another 17" football and many 14" natives.  The #18 flashback PT was also working great with the smaller 12-14" natives.

Thanks a lot to the regulars for touting the poopah because that was the fly that was working best this day.  I didn't even have them in my fly box until I read about it on this board.  Now it has a spot next to the bird's nest.

The Tip of the Day:
One tip that I think has really improved the fishing for me especially during low flows is to use a camo colored polypro yarn strike indicator.  The yarn has been proven to be less spooky to fish than the hard round indicators and the natural color can only be less obvious to the fish than the neon color most people use. 

Here is a great article on why and how to make the indicators:
http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/indicators/

Here is a place to buy the yarn (Carol is easy to deal with and ships fast):
http://www.carolsrugs.com/fly_fishing_cord.htm

Here is a place to buy the O-rings (less than .02/ea):
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=240-2524

Using these indicators I feel like I have been able to extract many more fish from each spot.  A couple of weeks ago I got 15-20 (and 12 hookups) grabs from an area not much bigger than 10' x 5'.  It was startling how many fish were sitting in that small area.  I believe that the camo indicator did not alert the fish to the presence of danger.  I also think these are easier to mend line with than the corkies since the yarn sits deeper in the water and a mend does not move the indicator much.

The Pics:

Fortunately, I had my water-proof camera:

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If you try the indicators, let me know if you notice an improvement in your fishing.



-- Edited by iamamultitasker at 10:46, 2007-11-08

-- Edited by iamamultitasker at 10:46, 2007-11-08

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welcome. very nice. thanks

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Welcome to the board, multitasker.  Nice report.  It sounds like you had a fun day on the creek.  I, too, like yarn indicators.  I used the little foam ones for a while, but I didn't like the colors of them.  I've watched trout move away as the indicator approached and move back into their feeding lane after it passed.  I now use white yarn indicators.  There is lots of white in the water (foam, feathers, fluff from trees), so the white ones seem to fit in well.  Now I rarely get fish moving away from the indicator.     

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Sounds like an epic day. I am jealous. 

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Sounds like a great day, And some nice pics as well. Welcome aboard multitasker. As far as indicator's go I only use poly yarn that i trim down alot, then apply flotant, I see guys casting these rather large brightly colored indicators, Not a good idea in my opinion. I also probably go without an indicator more then alot of people do, If I could I'd never use one but we all know that percentage of fish hooked goes way down.

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Nice Clay ...welcome...

great looking fish, killer pics, nice report!

thanks for sharing!

Ed

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Thanks for the welcome you guys!

I am a little reluctant to post on these kinds of boards because as we all know, great fishing spots will get overcrowded, great flies will get overfished, and eventually it can all go to hell!!!  However, what goes around comes around and if you're learning something here, IMO you should be giving back something too. 

Plus, there are a lot of nice people that hang out here and I hope to meet some of you out at Putah Creek.

Clay

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Wow, great report, Clay! I'm the guy that you talked to and was in your spot. Thanks again for sharing information (and tackle) with me. Unfortunately, I only had a couple hours to fish that day, and although I didn't catch any fish, it was a great learning experience (it was my first visit to Putah). I definitely understand what you mean about sharing info and then having the place be overrun. I do know from experience that these sorts of things happen from time to time, but fortunately, a person cannot glean enough inside info from this board alone to have the success that comes with putting in time and paying dues.

Thanks again, and hopefully I will see you on the water again soon, so I can steal your spot again!biggrin

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I think we've all experienced our favorite holes being overcrowded after a good report.  I've seen this a lot in the past.  It hasn't been as much of a problem lately, though.  As long as nobody gives exact locations in their reports, it should be okay.  

As far as fly patterns go, I believe many patterns get overfished.  The fish become accustomed to seeing the same flies day in and day out.  For this reason my flies are constantly evolving.  In my reports I don't get too specific about the flies that I use.  If someone asks, I might give them the pattern recipe, but it's as the fly stands now.  The pattern will certainly change over time as I discover new materials and try to to imitate more details of the actual insect.

To put it simply, I believe that if you want to catch the fish that nobody else catches, you have to fish in the places that nobody else fishes or use the flies that nobody else uses.  
 

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The reports lately have been great at not saying exact spots to fish, DO NOT GIVE DETAILS OF WERE YOU WERE FISHING. Last january I had an epic day on putah, easily 25 wild fish landed, I posted about it, Being the stupid rookie i was, Next day 8 people were in my spot, And that was super bowl sunday ! I'll never post details about my spots again. But i must say thanx to JT, About a year ago you turned me on to a spot on a pvt message, It has become one of my goto holes, Almost never fails. One thing I think is alot of people get stuck on fishing the bridge area, Theres alot of good spots thourghout the entire creek, So try some new spots. I tend to stay away from the bridge area.

-- Edited by thecaptain at 18:44, 2007-11-09

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unless is woolly bugger day. then its to the bridge matey. man that was a crazy day.

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Hi again Paul,

It was nice meeting you and sorry you didn't have more time to fish.  Next time I see you out there I'll be sure to show you a good spot to cast in.  ct.

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Those are nice putah fish.  Seems like more color on some of the males lately.  Some days the fish are just eating.  The classics you were tossing were all working so congrats.

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thought those o rings where.02 cents they are 1.85 each. am i missing something

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I don't use o-rings.  I just use fly tying thread.  They take a little longer to make, but they're cheaper.

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Hey Brian,

That's $1.85 per 100 - now you do the math!  Then you get that great yarn from Carol for .30/yrd and it works out to less than .12/ea for the indicators, including shipping charges, but not including labor.  They are basically indestructible if made correctly and will last multiple seasons. 

In an hour, I can make about 10 of them, which is 9 more than I'm gonna need this year.smile

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ya didnt read the 100 part. my bad. thanks for the insite. i might just have to make some.

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I checked out that article, can't wait to give it a try, thanks for the link! 

I have no hard feelings when people keep their holes secret, I think the info about techniques, gear, & bugs are a lot more helpful anyway as you can take that kind of learning to any creek with similar characteristics. 

One unsung outcome of this forum is that a lot of interested people get in tune with things like creek flows, water quality, and anything that could adversely impact the quality of the fishery. It would have been nice if we had these forums starting in the 1800's, there might have been some differences in how we dammed every river in sight for power and irrigation, diverted flows so we could blast the top soil off the hills in search of minerals, and used any convenient waterway as a sewer.  Keeps me motivated to support CalTrout and TU, anyway.

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