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According to the news there is an uncontrolled 4000 acre fire that started near Markley Cove and is being pushed NE by high winds. This will push it right through and over Putah Creek from access #1 all the way down to Lake Solano.

"At 9:20 p.m., the fire was only 5 percent contained and had jumped Putah Creek near Winters."

http://patch.com/california/napavalley/update-wraggfire-evacuations-ordered-blaze-near-lake-berryessa



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KTVU had some footage this morning on the news that showed the fire burning on both sides of Putah.



-- Edited by Bob Loblaw on Thursday 23rd of July 2015 08:47:38 AM

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it's not looking to good. Access 4 and 5 look like they are toast. I saw some news clips of access 5 burning. How bad it got I'm not sure. It's a sad day for Putah Creek. We might be looking at a long recovery if it's as bad as it looks. 

 

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Not sure what effect this will have on the fishing, sure will kill the scenery for a few years though.



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The fire seems to be headed due south towards Pleasants Valley Road.  There are a lot of homes along there.  Hope they stop it in time.



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It seems to have burned the south bank from #1 down to the island, where it jumped over.

www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article28364869.html

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Has anybody in this forum close to Putah creek taken a ride to the area to check the damage? I wander if the large trees along the river have survived or if everything was burned.



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last night I was driving south down 505 past winters and it was amazing to see the huge flames silhouette the mountain not only from the top but also from the lower left side where the Hwy 128 goes. hope everyone is ok, very scary to think that entire mountain is on fire.

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This looks terrible for Putah Creek! According to the latest fire map (see link below),

www.google.com/maps/d/viewer

the big island off Parking Area 5 has been completely burnt and nearly the entire south side of the creek is gone. I am afraid that the loss of streamside cover combined with the ash run-off when the Fall rains begin are going to be devastating for the Winter breeding session.

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Hey everyone. I went to the creek and just as I suspected fairley heavy burn down to the waters edge in places but as you would suspect pretty spoty with some places burned to the dirt right next to places only slightly touched. I checked with state fire and was told the road was open but when I got to pleasure cove resort CHP had it closed again but get this  I must have an angel on my shoulder the CHP sargeant offered me and Rusty yup Me and my dog Rusty a ride down to access 3 and back to assess the damage maybe its Rusty he is a real cutie and the sergeant was a pretty cute lady. You should have seen us Rusty and me riding shotgun in the CHP cruser. biggrinAnyway I need to get back up to the creek to check access 4 and 5 Ill bet its toast.no I think im back on the creek soon. Its this winter im worried about , with this drought it burned pretty hot and much of the hills are bare soil and steep so when the rains comes soil erosion follows .

Sorry no pics I left my camera in my car at the road block. 



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Bummer, looks like my favorite fishing spot, the island, is toast. But if the map is correct, spot #4 is more or less OK, as well as #3.

The joy of fishing is equal parts nature appreciation mixed with the challenge of angling...looks like 50% of the joy is gone.

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Both 128 and Pleasant Valley Rd are both open. The fire jumped the road at #1 and #5.



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Black Cloud, thanks for the pics. Looks bad, but I had even worse images in my mind.

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Anyone know if the Solano campground is OK? This doesn't look as bad as I thought. It will recover with the winter rain.

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I was at #1 yesterday and if anything the fire improved access. Most of the burn there was just west of the parking lot.

The whole south shore (far) seemed pretty scorched and if you can make it over there you would have many more options as far getting to the water and even making full false casts.

I saw only one or two burned trees, everything else was just burned grass and blackberry bushes, just cleared em all out.


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well maybe on plus side, now we can have a few spots where we can actually back cast!?

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Hopefully a lot of the poison oak will have been taken care of as well.

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I'm not sure I even remember how to do a false cast anymore. 😏



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I drove up to Sacramento this morning and it looks like the fire has flared back up again. Big ploom of smoke....looks to be north of the creek...hard to tell from I80. Saw about 8 Cal Fire trucks exit at Lagoon Valley Road.

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You guys are awesome! I've been traveling, and at a Scout camp while Cali (& Putah) and have been on fire. I may try to get up there this weekend. Thanks for the pics Black Cloud! EJ

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I think every Putah Creek angler is curious about the answer to this question. On another flyfishing site I posted the question of what effects a fire could have on a stream that had been engulfed by a fire. I had several informative answers which I have summarized below.

 

Potential effects of the fire:

 

- Runoff of sediment due to the loss of plant cover. Excess sediment can destroy benthic (stream bottom) insect larvae, thus reducing the food supply.

 

 

- Possible big fish kill after heavy rains. The runoff of sediment could reduce oxygen content and make the stream too alkaline

 

 

- The effects of the fire is dependent upon several factors:

- the gradient of the stream

 

- the amount of topsoil and debris washed into the river by rain

 

- the remaining cover and vegetation which could minimize the amount of runoff

 

- rain that could be heavy enough to create the runoff

 

The steeper the gradient, the thicker the soil and debris, the less intact protective cover and vegetation, and the greater the subsequent rains ==> the greater the possible negative impact of the fire

 

 

- Regarding a local stream which had experienced a fire, one person said that it experienced a fish kill after it took a direct hit from a slurry bomber. It killed many of the larger fish. He said that the stream insect life was fairly quick in its recovery, but the larger fish were slow to reappear. He also said that the stream had been closed for a year following the fire. He also mentioned the Hayman fire that burned much of the watershed of the South Platte (Colorado) river in 2002. For several years after a lot of sediment washed into the stream and lakes in the area and choked the stream’s riverbed. Some parts of the river recovered fairly quickly while other areas were very slow to recover.

 

Of course, only time will tell what the actual effects of the Wragg fire will be on Putah creek. However, judging from the answers I received, it’s pretty apparent that the effects could be quite devastating. On the positive side, I believe that Putah has been pretty resilient over the years so I’m hoping that it will withstand one more serious blow to the fishery.

 



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Thanks No Hackle. Your points are zeroed in on what may be problems for the IDR this winter. PCT and others are starting to gather information and resources through the Interdam Reach Coordinating Committee which meets next month. There is going to be a concerted effort to get expert input on approaches to erosion and sedimentation control and mitigation, in particular. 

This coming winter has the potential for terrible sedimentation increase, along with all the other situations you mention.

 Because there have been no scouring events via the glory hole over topping for the past 10 years, sediment is already a major problem. We will keep the forum informed and expect volunteer opportunities to be coming up. 



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So it sounds like you can fish from the Yolo side of Putah creek or north side when do they lower cfm has any one fished Putah in the last couple of weeks, also were would you find out about volunteer projects for this fall



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Fishing north bank appears OK; CDFW has not made any further announcements.

First fall event will be IDR clean up in mid September in conjunction with the International clean up event. Saturday September 19 from 9 to noon. We collect trash and recyclables from the 4.6 mile stretch from Monticello dam to the tip of the island at #5. 

Other activities related to habitat enhancement and restoration are in planning stages.



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Spoke too soon. Wildlife Area (South bank) is still closed. Access 1-4 open, but no comment on 5-assume it is closed and proceed at risk of citation. I'll call tomorrow to see if its in fact off limits.



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I think everyone should just let the creek sleep for the year, with guides as the exception.

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So if I pay a guide it's OK to go?

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